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Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 17:52:00 - [1] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Avon Wow, look at all the goonanger. lolz Its rather telling I'm so irrelevent that any post I make has the goon internet spymaster supreme arriving in under 10 minutes to show his troops the prefered tactic for dealing with rhetorical dissent - almost like he has my name flagged on the GIA echelon/jabber client ... man it's really hard these days getting goons to post on a forum i hear you Yeah but this one is a brain-goon. He's special. I don't understand. Can you please post this in the form of a long winded diatribe that nobody on earth will ever read? Thanks!
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 18:03:00 - [2] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Vile rat I don't understand. Can you please post this in the form of a long winded diatribe that nobody on earth will ever read? Thanks! Sure If you feel able to comment in the form of a constructive post on the subject then be my guest. Ok sure. Your whole post was complete garbage and you don't even have the basic facts of what occured correct. It doesn't matter how many words you throw around if you can't prove you have even a novice understanding of the circumstances at hand. Also you appear to be an irrelevant lowsec gate camper who seems to be commenting on details concerning sovereignty and its defense. Posting in threads full of important people discussing important events does not make you important, just a has been trapped in 2005 who pines for simpler days where you could run your mouth off and people would be impressed by big words instead of noticing what a complete fraud you always have been.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 18:13:00 - [3] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Vile rat Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Vile rat I don't understand. Can you please post this in the form of a long winded diatribe that nobody on earth will ever read? Thanks! Sure If you feel able to comment in the form of a constructive post on the subject then be my guest. Ok sure. Your whole post was complete garbage and you don't even have the basic facts of what occured correct. It doesn't matter how many words you throw around if you can't prove you have even a novice understanding of the circumstances at hand. Also you appear to be an irrelevant lowsec gate camper who seems to be commenting on details concerning sovereignty and its defense. Posting in threads full of important people discussing important events does not make you important, just a has been trapped in 2005 who pines for simpler days where you could run your mouth off and people would be impressed by big words instead of noticing what a complete fraud you always have been. I guess that would be a "no" then. You could have just said "okay Jade you're completely right sovereignty does suck and we admit we'd never have broken down sov4 defenses without an executor level spy self destructing an alliance so yes - its broken." Still luckily people can infer precisely that from your silly personal attacks and flamebait easily enough so its all fine! Have a great day old chap. Your entire argument is based off of a false dichotomy to begin with and really shouldn't be taken seriously by anybody. The best you can do is throw around logical fallacies and you should probably stop posting forever.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 18:36:00 - [4] Quote: If war in 0.0 becomes a polarity between: A) They have cyno-jammers and titans = no force in the known universe can take their space. B) We have a director level spy in their executor corp and can turn off their sovereignty = auto win for the larger side. You know you have a problem in game balance. This is a false dichotomy (or dilemma, either works) and it is the premise of your entire argument. It's based off of a Logical Fallacy and proves you have no idea what you are talking about. You assume during the course of your terrible argument that only options A or B are possible and continue to the end of your argument using that "fact" as your cornerstone. This is incorrect. You are incorrect. Second you appear to be under the impression that we bribed Haargoth or even sweet talked him up a bit. This is also incorrect and proves you don't even have a cursory understanding of the facts, or anything that even might look or smell like a fact. That combined with your logical fallacy crutch argument prove that you really have no idea what you are talking about and people are actually safer just avoiding your posts like the plague or they might suddenly turn stupid from reading them.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 19:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Doctor Penguin Sadly the rules of the internet debate is that the people with the most alts wins. All you do is argue with somebody until they quit the thread, but when GS has 5000 people to spam hate with, you can't stop them. The trick with GS is to ignore them. Ah Doctor, it doesn't work quite like that. You see the act of posting with an alt is an admission of failure. The person doing it knows that. They see that failure etched on the lines of their face when they look in the mirror in the morning - in the eyes of their girlfiends mixed and mingled with the disappointment and disillusionment at things that were not to be. To inspire an enemy to conjure alts to shout at you is to win. When a single post from a heroic individualist poster can cause a wave of barely-literate snuffling grunts and meme-coughing in response that victory is secured. This brain goon knows his stuff Sir, he knows that victory for the hive comes when all dissenting voices are stilled and cultural dominance is assured and his tools in this conflict are alts and nonsense and poorly-briefed drones of cause - but ignoring all the swarm is the wrong approach. Pick and choose Sir! Duck and weave and select your moment carefully. Kill one here and there, execute an ego with precision and decapitate a fallacy with a swift backhand cut and then retire to a safe distance to watch the amusing results. The rank and file can only burble repetitive groans and clanking unwieldy internet terms barely capable of shielding their weak bodies from attack. But as the hive grows restive and aroused it will eventually summon the big beasts from the depths and those are the vulnerable targets - the end of level bad guys if you will. Irritate the drones with debate and eventually you'll summon a mittani or a darius and thats where you need to be shooting. Originally by: Vile rat I don't understand. Can you please post this in the form of a long winded diatribe that nobody on earth will ever read? Thanks! See? That's all I asked for.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 19:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 19/02/2009 19:38:38 Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Jade Constantine I hope you aren't thinking of running away Mittani. How would that look to the drones? u mad?~ Aha I can see I need to explain something else of the rules of internet discussions to you chaps for the sake of fair play and good sporting potential. 1. Mindlessly quoting tired internet memes = auto lose. Its not an acceptable replacement for actual debate you see. Somebody asks you a question, critiques your reasoning, challenges your assumptions and positions etc etc. It just doesn't fly if you look confused and scared and croak out last years 4chan memes like some kind of lame secret code. You aren't 10 any more Mittani. You're a notorious internet spymaster and if people ask you direct questions you don't get to fall back on spurious internet nonsense to excuse your ignorance on gameplay or political issues of the day. So you loose this round old chap. Thanks for playing. Come again. hehe
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.19 19:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: The Mittani wow you sure showed me~ Don't feel too bad about it. After all, I'm also better than 5000 other drones "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darnit people like me!" ~stares into mirror wistfully
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 15:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Jade Constantine Big ol' wall of words Yo there you go again trying to do the ol' logical fallacy thing again. You were told why your argument was a load of garbage and your response was to ignore the comments and just keep on copy/pasting the same thing while putting your fingers in your ears going "la la I can't hear you". Quote: If war in 0.0 becomes a polarity between: A) They have cyno-jammers and titans = no force in the known universe can take their space. B) We have a director level spy in their executor corp and can turn off their sovereignty = auto win for the larger side. You know you have a problem in game balance. But it's not. You can't just assume this is a given and run your mouth off basing this as fact. Quote: Lets face it if somebody was planning a campaign against say RAZOR right now - what would be the sensible option? A) buying 500 deathstars and assembling a massive "coalition of the willing" and bringing a cap fleet to darken the skies (tm). or B) Lets have a whip-round and see how much raw ISK we can put into a pot to bribe an executor corp director to zero their sovereignty. Now sure, you still need a force to go in there and actually put up the new towers but compared to the absolute impossibility of taking territory from a half way competent defense force with jammers/titans thats the current state of the game in a nutshell. But these aren't the only options, just the ones your adorable little empire gate camper mentality can conjure up because you really have no idea what you are talking about.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 15:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Jade me be talking *******s, but y'all have no right to discredit the theory that without resetting a strong alliance's sov, taking their systems from would be about as far from a picnic as it's possible to get until you've done it. Anything else is mindless posturing. From both sides of this "debate". Been there done it. Didn't enjoy it. Saw the system was broken, decided to do something else until its fixed. Next question. So are you going to actually address the gaping holes in your argument or just stare in the mirror telling yourself how awesome and smart you are because you can type a bunch of words?
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 15:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 20/02/2009 15:19:07 Oh I'm waiting for somebody interesting to post. I don't see any profit in even responding to the usual goon lies and nonsense unless it serves the purpose of debate in some way. Remember chaps - I don't view you goons as individuals at all so please don't take offense if I respond to you collectively at times of dramatic moment Hahahahahahaha

Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 15:38:00 - [11] I'm going to post in support of jade and his cause from now on. We are now posting brothers!
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 15:42:00 - [12] Originally by: Jade Constantine I imagine it must be quite frustrating for those goons that occasionally try to fakepost an attempt at logical entrapment to be submerged in the general morass of hooting and braying and illiterate grunts of their fellows. If nobody ever takes a single thing the swarm says seriously how can you troll pubbies? There are two boss-creatures in the swarm I might respond to seriously. Nobody else is worthy of being viewed as an individual. If I believed there was much in the way of individual cognizance beneath the moronic behaviour I might have more empathy for the plight of the poor misunderstood intellectual goons but unfortunately I don't. Parroting the words and terminology of other sentients doesn't buy you a seat at the table of debate. Show the faintest glimmering suggestion of independent thought from below the collective groupthink and this might change - but I won't be holding my breath. Preach on brother! Our cause is righteous and our will to continue is bottomless!
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 16:21:00 - [13] Edited by: Vile rat on 20/02/2009 16:21:04 Originally by: Internet Online Edited by: Internet Online on 20/02/2009 15:55:33 I, too, will fight the good fight alongside Jade Constantine. While I might not agree with his agenda as such, I would willingly sacrifice myself to protect his freedom to post his opinions! SEMPER FI Edit: Greetings page 18! May your posts be glorious. You're not doing this right. You need a sweet sig like mine.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 18:42:00 - [14] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: Avon Jade is basically making the point that the Goons tried to threadnaught about last time they failed to take Delve, and now they have done a 180 and are arguing against it? A cynical person might think that they were just making excuses. If you did as much fighting as posting, Goons would have lost this war a long time ago. Hey it's Lunas! Sup.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.20 18:58:00 - [15] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: Vile rat Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: Avon Jade is basically making the point that the Goons tried to threadnaught about last time they failed to take Delve, and now they have done a 180 and are arguing against it? A cynical person might think that they were just making excuses. If you did as much fighting as posting, Goons would have lost this war a long time ago. Hey it's Lunas! Sup. Hey Vile been a while hope you doing well. Yeah doing good. Hangin' with some friends, takin' some delve.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.21 00:40:00 - [16] Originally by: elohllird Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Vinata ... Something about me being more important than him, I can't remember exactly. Make your mind up little drone you just told me you meant nothing whatsoever a couple of posts ago. Are you a meaningless little insect without individuality or aren't you? Its not a terribly difficult question. Come on you can do it! yaay jade is back You do realize he's going to have to actually travel to 0.0 in order to save your dying empire right? Might want to give him a map.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.21 00:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Angelus Damelon when your thesaurus isn't doing the job i hear underlines and bold are also excellent tools to make yourself look important You forgot caps.
Vile rat Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.21 02:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Friendly bump, so there is something nice to read on the front page among all the goonie spam.. PS. I havent seen so many goonie threads since you former glorious leader Remi got laid for the first time. Goonfleet.com is down. This is what happens when goonfleet.com goes down.

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